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34.Opening Statement: Sexual Harrassment Hearings

Concerning Judge Clarence Thomas

Mr. Chairman, Senator Thurmond, members of the committee, my name is Anita
F. Hill, and I am a professor of law at the University of Oklahoma. I was
born on a farm in Okmulgee County, Oklahoma, in 1956. I am the youngest of
13 children. I had my early education in Okmulgee County. My father,
Albert Hill, is a farmer in that area. My mother's name is Irma Hill. She
is also a farmer and a housewife.

My childhood was one of a lot of hard work and not much money, but it was
one of solid family affection, as represented by my parents. I was reared
in a religious atmosphere in the Baptist faith, and I have been a member
of the Antioch Baptist Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma, since 1983. It is a very
warm part of my life at the present time.

For my undergraduate work, I went to Oklahoma State University and
graduated from there in 1977. I am attaching to this statement a copy of
my resume for further details of my education.

I graduated from the university with academic honors and proceeded to the
Yale Law School, where I received my JD degree in 1980. Upon graduation
from law school, I became a practicing lawyer with the Washington, DC,
firm of Ward, Hardraker, and Ross.

In 1981, I was introduced to now Judge Thomas by a mutual friend. Judge
Thomas told me that he was anticipating a political appointment, and he
asked if I would be interested in working with him. He was, in fact,
appointed as Assistant Secretary of Education for Civil Rights. After he
had taken that post, he asked if I would become his assistant, and I
accepted that position.

In my early period there, I had two major projects. The first was an
article I wrote for Judge Thomas' signature on the education of minority
students. The second was the organization of a seminar on high-risk
students which was abandoned because Judge Thomas transferred to the EEOC
where he became the chairman of that office.

During this period at the Department of Education, my working relationship
with Judge Thomas was positive. I had a good deal of responsibility and
independence. I thought he respected my work and that he trusted my
judgment. After approximately three months of working there, he asked me
to go out socially with him.

What happened next and telling the world about it are the two most
difficult things -- experiences of my life. It is only after a great deal
of agonizing consideration and sleepless number -- a great number of
sleepless nights that I am able to talk of these unpleasant matters to
anyone but my close friends.

I declined the invitation to go out socially with him and explained to him
that I thought it would jeopardize what at the time I considered to be a
very good working relationship. I had a normal social life with other men
outside of the office. I believed then, as now, that having a social
relationship with a person who was supervising my work would be
ill-advised. I was very uncomfortable with the idea and told him so.
I thought that by saying no and explaining my reasons my employer would
abandon his social suggestions. However, to my regret, in the following
few weeks, he continued to ask me out on several occasions. He pressed me
to justify my reasons for saying no to him. These incidents took place in
his office or mine. They were in the form of private conversations which
would not have been overheard by anyone else.
My working relationship became even more strained when Judge Thomas began
to use work situations to discuss sex. On these occasions, he would call
me into his office for reports on education issues and projects, or he
might suggest that, because of the time pressures of his schedule, we go
to lunch to a government cafeteria. After a brief discussion of work, he
would turn the conversation to a discussion of sexual matters.
His conversations were very vivid. He spoke about acts that he had seen in
pornographic films involving such matters as women having sex with animals
and films showing group sex or rape scenes. He talked about pornographic
materials depicting individuals with large penises or large breasts
involved in various sex acts. On several occasions, Thomas told me
graphically of his own sexual prowess.
Because I was extremely uncomfortable talking about sex with him at all
and particularly in such a graphic way, I told him that I did not want to
talk about these subjects. I would also try to change the subject to
education matters or to nonsexual personal matters such as his background
or his beliefs. My efforts to change the subject were rarely successful.
Throughout the period of these conversations, he also from time to time
asked me for social engagements. My reaction to these conversations was to
avoid them by eliminating opportunities for us to engage in extended
conversations. This was difficult because at the time I was his only
assistant at the Office of Education -- or Office for Civil Rights.
During the latter part of my time at the Department of Education, the
social pressures and any conversation of his offensive behavior ended. I
began both to believe and hope that our working relationship could be a
proper, cordial, and professional one.
When Judge Thomas was made chair of the EEOC, I needed to face the
question of whether to go with him. I was asked to do so, and I did. The
work itself was interesting, and at that time it appeared that the sexual
overtures which had so troubled me had ended. I also faced the realistic
fact that I had no alternative job. While I might have gone back to
private practice, perhaps in my old firm or at another, I was dedicated to
civil rights work, and my first choice was to be in that field. Moreover,
the Department of Education itself was a dubious venture. President Reagan
was seeking to abolish the entire department.
For my first months at the EEOC, where I continued to be an assistant to
Judge Thomas, there were no sexual conversations or overtures. However,
during the fall and winter of 1982, these began again. The comments were
random and ranged from pressing me about why I didn't go out with him to
remarks about my personal appearance. I remember his saying that some day
I would have to tell him the real reason that I wouldn't go out with him.
He began to show displeasure in his tone and voice and his demeanor and
his continued pressure for an explanation. He commented on what I was
wearing in terms of whether it made me more or less sexually attractive.
The incidents occurred in his inner office at the EEOC.
One of the oddest episodes I remember was an occasion in which Thomas was
drinking a Coke in his office. He got up from the table at which we were
working, went over to his desk to get the Coke, looked at the can and
asked, "Who has pubic hair on my Coke?" On other occasions, he referred to
the size of his own penis as being larger than normal, and he also spoke
on some occasions of the pleasures he had given to women with oral sex.
At this point, late 1982, I began to feel severe stress on the job. I
began to be concerned that Clarence Thomas might take out his anger with
me by degrading me or not giving me important assignments. I also thought
that he might find an excuse for dismissing me.
In January of 1983, I began looking for another job. I was handicapped
because I feared that, if he found out, he might make it difficult for me
to find other employment and I might be dismissed from the job I had.
Another factor that made my search more difficult was that there was a
period -- this was during a period of a hiring freeze in the government.
In February of 1983, I was hospitalized for five days on an emergency
basis for acute stomach pain which I attributed to stress on the job.
Once out of the hospital, I became more committed to find other employment
and sought further to minimize my contact with Thomas. This became easier
when Allison Duncan (sp) became office director, because most of my work
was then funneled through her and I had contact with Clarence Thomas
mostly in staff meetings.
In the spring of 1983, an opportunity to teach at Oral Roberts University
opened up. I participated in a seminar -- taught an afternoon session and
seminar at Oral Roberts University. The dean of the university saw me
teaching and inquired as to whether I would be interested in furthering --
pursuing a career in teaching, beginning at Oral Roberts University. I
agreed to take the job in large part because of my desire to escape the
pressures I felt at the EEOC due to Judge Thomas.
When I informed him that I was leaving in July, I recall that his response
was that now I would no longer have an excuse for not going out with him.
I told him that I still preferred not to do so. At some time after that
meeting, he asked if he could take me to dinner at the end of the term.
When I declined, he assured me that the dinner was a professional courtesy
only and not a social invitation. I reluctantly agreed to accept that
invitation, but only if it was at the every end of a working day.
On, as I recall, the last day of my employment at the EEOC in the summer
of 1983, I did have dinner with Clarence Thomas. We went directly from
work to a restaurant near the office. We talked about the work I had done,
both at education and at the EEOC. He told me that he was pleased with all
of it except for an article and speech that I had done for him while we
were at the Office for Civil Rights. Finally, he made a comment that I
will vividly remember. He said that if I ever told anyone of his behavior
that it would ruin his career. This was not an apology, nor was it an
explanation. That was his last remark about the possibility of our going
out or reference to his behavior.
In July of 1983, I left Washington, DC area and have had minimal contact
with Judge Clarence Thomas since. I am of course aware from the press that
some questions have been raised about conversations I had with Judge
Clarence Thomas after I left the EEOC. From 1983 until today, I have seen
Judge Thomas only twice. On one occasion, I needed to get a reference from
him, and on another he made a public appearance in Tulsa.
On one occasion he called me at home and we had an inconsequential
conversation. On one occasion he called me without reaching me, and I
returned the call without reaching him, and nothing came of it. I have on
at least three occasions, been asked to act as a conduit to him for
others.
I knew his secretary, Diane Holt. We had worked together at both EEOC and
education. There were occasions on which I spoke to her, and on some of
these occasions undoubtedly I passed on some casual comment to then
Chairman Thomas. There were a series of calls in the first three months of
1985, occasioned by a group in Tulsa, which wished to have a civil rights
conference. They wanted Judge Thomas to be the speaker and enlisted my
assistance for this purpose.
I did call in January and February to no effect, and finally suggested to
the person directly involved, Susan Cahal (ph) that she put the matter
into her own hands and call directly. She did so in March of 1985. In
connection with that March invitation, Ms. Cahal (ph) wanted conference
materials for the seminar and some research was needed. I was asked to try
to get the information and did attempted to do so.
There was another call about another possible conference in July of 1985.
In August of 1987, I was in Washington, DC and I did call Diane Holt. In
the course of this conversation, she asked me how long I was going to be
in town and I told her. It is recorded in the message as August 15. It
was, in fact, August 20th. She told me about Judge Thomas's marriage and I
did say congratulate him.
It is only after a great deal of agonizing consideration that I am able to
talk of these unpleasant matters to anyone except my closest friends. As
I've said before these last few days have been very trying and very hard
for me and it hasn't just been the last few days this week. It has
actually been over a month now that I have been under the strain of this
issue.
Telling the world is the most difficult experience of my life, but it is
very close to having to live through the experience that occasion this
meeting. I may have used poor judgment early on in my relationship with
this issue. I was aware, however, that telling at any point in my career
could adversely affect my future career. And I did not want early on to
burn all the bridges to the EEOC.
As I said, I may have used poor judgment. Perhaps I should have taken
angry or even militant steps, both when I was in the agency, or after I
left it. But I must confess to the world that the course that I took
seemed the better as well as the easier approach.
I declined any comment to newspapers, but later when Senate staff asked me
about these matters I felt I had a duty to report. I have no personal
vendetta against Clarence Thomas. I seek only to provide the committee
with information which it may regard as relevant.
It would have been more comfortable to remain silent. I took no initiative
to inform anyone. But when I was asked by a representative of this
committee to report my experience, I felt that I had to tell the truth. I
could not keep silent.
 

 

 


 


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